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MichaelC45
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2007, 03:32:47 PM »

As for posting public information there is little you can do unless it was done with intent to commit harm and can be proven so......
If someone Is libeling you then you should retain an attorney and take legal action......
If you're just upset then vent it here and let it go................... or not........ your decission..


I had my personal information posted on HB, including name, address, phone, and even a map of my neighborhood! The moderator removed it and the practice is banned on HB.
Thanks Oscar!

One of the ALIPACers posted my name on a newspaper web site afte I commented about ALIPAC. Additionally, they posted I support child brides, importing sex offenders, and people should check the Minnesota sex offender registry for interesting information (of course I'm not listed on any such registry). The mods deleted that post within minutes after reporting it.

There likely is still a post on ALIPAC that my wife is an illegal immigrant, though she never posted there and I already told Gheen and the person who posted that is blatantly false. They just don't care who they hurt! Too bad they don't have enough to be worth suing, because that is prime lawsuit material.
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MichaelC45
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2007, 03:45:16 PM »

LaVerdad and Bob,

Be careful what you say to this guy.
Alipac.com started a whole thread called "Alipac Parody." They are doing nothing but making fun of this site.

I didn't start the thread.......... why are you so afraid of me? You still mad because I caught you in moderator mode when you denied ever being one at matt? Get over it..... you made a mistake and I just happened to catch you...... lol     

MC wrote private information about Tony.

No..... I posted public information not private information. There is a difference.

I´ve seen his posts on other forums and he makes plenty of trouble. Very negative.

Let me give you examples.
He just said he deleted the personal stats on Tony. I just checked and he did NOT delete them
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=53681
scroll down to the bottom of the page and there they are. The 3rd to last message.

That's funny....... I don't know how you can say that when I did remove the information last night........ and it has not been on that website since after midnight last night..... So please, lets stick to the truth here.

He is pretending to be nice here but here is what he said there:
"Public information is just that........... public information......... and no, I cannot get sued for it.............. if he didn't want the information to be public he should have made the website private when it was registered.
No law against public information......"
and this
"Oh and by the way.......... I think it was necessary to post that so William has the information to hand to his lawyer to sue him for using his companies name........ You scammers are all the same........ lol "
and he is also a big blow hard:
"If you don't want your personal information on the web then be careful where and how you use it........
Remember........ Public information is just that. It's public and anyone can go see it anytime they want, and it's open to all eyes.......
I don't charge for lessons for scammers 101 ........ I busted enough of them....... "

I told the truth there. I think you might just be paranoid.


All of this are just MCs typic evil tactics!!

Evil tactics? how so? Just because I spoke the truth? lol



Are you suggesting MC that all people who migrate from the southern border are "criminal elements".  If so then the choice word of xenophobia describing ALI-PAC's mental policy is true.

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MichaelC45
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #17 on: February 08, 2007, 03:51:23 PM »

I don't have any reason to delete my posts so you can take all the screen shots you want.......... lol I have screen shots too........ of you in moderator mode......
So what shall we do now? Trade screen shots? lol
I worked with the government for over 5 years catching criminals on the internet....... So I'm not worried about someone taking screen shots of my posts....  I have binders full of screen shots from way back when........... lol


I´ve made screen shots of these posts so even if he deletes them I have the proof.

Just his typical tactics!!
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Dee
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #18 on: February 08, 2007, 03:56:28 PM »

LOL.
MC giving advice and HE is the one who POSTED Tony´s information.

POT KETTLE BLACK

so typical

As for posting public information there is little you can do unless it was done with intent to commit harm and can be proven so......
If someone Is libeling you then you should retain an attorney and take legal action......
If you're just upset then vent it here and let it go................... or not........ your decission..


I had my personal information posted on HB, including name, address, phone, and even a map of my neighborhood! The moderator removed it and the practice is banned on HB.
Thanks Oscar!

One of the ALIPACers posted my name on a newspaper web site afte I commented about ALIPAC. Additionally, they posted I support child brides, importing sex offenders, and people should check the Minnesota sex offender registry for interesting information (of course I'm not listed on any such registry). The mods deleted that post within minutes after reporting it.

There likely is still a post on ALIPAC that my wife is an illegal immigrant, though she never posted there and I already told Gheen and the person who posted that is blatantly false. They just don't care who they hurt! Too bad they don't have enough to be worth suing, because that is prime lawsuit material.
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #19 on: February 08, 2007, 03:58:10 PM »

I mentioned this just to illustrate how hateful some people on that site are.

It's not worth my time and money to sue ALI-PAC. They have very little in assets to pay damages, probably much less than attorneys fees. That's why I was looking at their financial statements and noticed all the irregularities.

I'm a treasurer for a political party and can read and decipher campaign finance statements. ALIPAC's statements are a mess, and they apparently don't pay their taxes! Political Action Committees don't pay federal and state income taxes, but they are required to pay employer taxes.

Gheen and Jurbala are both classified employees under federal law, but their statements show zero taxes paid. Shame on ALIPAC for always throwing stones at illegal immigrants while not paying a cent of their employer taxes!

BTW, I'm sorry if you were offended by my "biker" comment. I was referring to your avatar, which I didn't realize was your photo. Please accept my apology.
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MichaelC45
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #20 on: February 08, 2007, 04:02:31 PM »

A couple of comments. First, MC did finally remove Tony's personal information from his post. I just checked.


ALI-PAC can make all the fun of this site they want to, but I believe it is an excellent medium, very well organized information. I can guarantee you that W is paying close attention to us, and probably kicking himself that he didn't lock the domain name or copyright the term "ALIPAC." We have every right to use the domain name ALIPAC.NET, and right on the home page there is a disclaimer that we are not affiliated with the other ALIPAC.

BTW, there is an Americans for Legal Immigration (no PAC). On their home page they state they're not affiliated with ALIPAC. Note their "public notice" on their home page:
http://www.noillegals.com/
This is the Original AMERICANS FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION SITE (The Real One) and is NOT a PAC. We are not here to separate you from your money or to look more important than we are.

Hmmm....makes you wonder why they would distance themselves from ALIPAC...


First of all he is covered under copyright even though it has not been registered... All he has to do is show proof that he had the name first......... And I'm sure that won't be too hard to do.....
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Dee
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« Reply #21 on: February 08, 2007, 04:03:44 PM »

LOL you DID delete the POST you wrote with Tony´s personal information.
You were scared, weren´t you blow boy.

I like when you say I am a Moderator. I like when you say I am CEO. I like when you say I run things all over!!!

I´m not a blowhard like you. You say you are a Mensa genius (you have the mensa part right) multiple business owner millionaire. LOL LOL LOL

I saw your pix. you are a little pip squeak.
What do they say about little men?

LOL LOL

I´m just a sweet little Mexican American granny who always writes the truth!!

See ya Blow Boy!!

I don't have any reason to delete my posts so you can take all the screen shots you want.......... lol I have screen shots too........ of you in moderator mode......
So what shall we do now? Trade screen shots? lol
I worked with the government for over 5 years catching criminals on the internet....... So I'm not worried about someone taking screen shots of my posts....  I have binders full of screen shots from way back when........... lol


I´ve made screen shots of these posts so even if he deletes them I have the proof.

Just his typical tactics!!
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MichaelC45
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #22 on: February 08, 2007, 04:05:20 PM »

Well yes...... I did have to look up all the laws when I was working with the government..... So I do know about them........ lol


LOL.
MC giving advice and HE is the one who POSTED Tony´s information.

POT KETTLE BLACK

so typical

As for posting public information there is little you can do unless it was done with intent to commit harm and can be proven so......
If someone Is libeling you then you should retain an attorney and take legal action......
If you're just upset then vent it here and let it go................... or not........ your decission..


I had my personal information posted on HB, including name, address, phone, and even a map of my neighborhood! The moderator removed it and the practice is banned on HB.
Thanks Oscar!

One of the ALIPACers posted my name on a newspaper web site afte I commented about ALIPAC. Additionally, they posted I support child brides, importing sex offenders, and people should check the Minnesota sex offender registry for interesting information (of course I'm not listed on any such registry). The mods deleted that post within minutes after reporting it.

There likely is still a post on ALIPAC that my wife is an illegal immigrant, though she never posted there and I already told Gheen and the person who posted that is blatantly false. They just don't care who they hurt! Too bad they don't have enough to be worth suing, because that is prime lawsuit material.
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Dee
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2007, 04:05:37 PM »

LOL Blow Boy

No One Believes You, Little Man!!

A couple of comments. First, MC did finally remove Tony's personal information from his post. I just checked.


ALI-PAC can make all the fun of this site they want to, but I believe it is an excellent medium, very well organized information. I can guarantee you that W is paying close attention to us, and probably kicking himself that he didn't lock the domain name or copyright the term "ALIPAC." We have every right to use the domain name ALIPAC.NET, and right on the home page there is a disclaimer that we are not affiliated with the other ALIPAC.

BTW, there is an Americans for Legal Immigration (no PAC). On their home page they state they're not affiliated with ALIPAC. Note their "public notice" on their home page:
http://www.noillegals.com/
This is the Original AMERICANS FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION SITE (The Real One) and is NOT a PAC. We are not here to separate you from your money or to look more important than we are.

Hmmm....makes you wonder why they would distance themselves from ALIPAC...


First of all he is covered under copyright even though it has not been registered... All he has to do is show proof that he had the name first......... And I'm sure that won't be too hard to do.....

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MichaelC45
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2007, 04:08:18 PM »

Not a problem Bob.............. Smiley  I don't have any grudges against anyone nor do I hold them...... It's not worth it.......  lol

There are hateful people in this world and there is no denying that....... but there are a lot of good people too.......... I tend to think there are more good people then bad...

I mentioned this just to illustrate how hateful some people on that site are.

It's not worth my time and money to sue ALI-PAC. They have very little in assets to pay damages, probably much less than attorneys fees. That's why I was looking at their financial statements and noticed all the irregularities.

I'm a treasurer for a political party and can read and decipher campaign finance statements. ALIPAC's statements are a mess, and they apparently don't pay their taxes! Political Action Committees don't pay federal and state income taxes, but they are required to pay employer taxes.

Gheen and Jurbala are both classified employees under federal law, but their statements show zero taxes paid. Shame on ALIPAC for always throwing stones at illegal immigrants while not paying a cent of their employer taxes!

BTW, I'm sorry if you were offended by my "biker" comment. I was referring to your avatar, which I didn't realize was your photo. Please accept my apology.
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Dee
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2007, 04:10:02 PM »

Government Job? Give me a break Blow Boy !!

Where was it, a mental ward?

LOL LOL LOL

I haven´t laughed this hard all day!!

Well yes...... I did have to look up all the laws when I was working with the government..... So I do know about them........ lol


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Dee
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2007, 04:12:26 PM »

You denying what you said Blow Boy or posting Tony´s info on the bizarro site?

LOL LOL LOL

Your lies are quickly catching up to you!!


"Public information is just that........... public information......... and no, I cannot get sued for it.............. if he didn't want the information to be public he should have made the website private when it was registered.
No law against public information......"
and this
"Oh and by the way.......... I think it was necessary to post that so William has the information to hand to his lawyer to sue him for using his companies name........ You scammers are all the same........ lol "
and he is also a big blow hard:
"If you don't want your personal information on the web then be careful where and how you use it........
Remember........ Public information is just that. It's public and anyone can go see it anytime they want, and it's open to all eyes.......
I don't charge for lessons for scammers 101 ........ I busted enough of them....... "

I told the truth there. I think you might just be paranoid.





Not a problem Bob.............. Smiley  I don't have any grudges against anyone nor do I hold them...... It's not worth it.......  lol

There are hateful people in this world and there is no denying that....... but there are a lot of good people too.......... I tend to think there are more good people then bad...

I mentioned this just to illustrate how hateful some people on that site are.

It's not worth my time and money to sue ALI-PAC. They have very little in assets to pay damages, probably much less than attorneys fees. That's why I was looking at their financial statements and noticed all the irregularities.

I'm a treasurer for a political party and can read and decipher campaign finance statements. ALIPAC's statements are a mess, and they apparently don't pay their taxes! Political Action Committees don't pay federal and state income taxes, but they are required to pay employer taxes.

Gheen and Jurbala are both classified employees under federal law, but their statements show zero taxes paid. Shame on ALIPAC for always throwing stones at illegal immigrants while not paying a cent of their employer taxes!

BTW, I'm sorry if you were offended by my "biker" comment. I was referring to your avatar, which I didn't realize was your photo. Please accept my apology.
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MichaelC45
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #27 on: February 08, 2007, 04:17:05 PM »

I was neither scared nor did I delete the whole post......... I was asked to delete it and the mods had plenty of time to do it if they wanted it gone......... I did it as a request.......

You are a moderator ......... and I never did say you were the CEO nor did I say you ran things over there....... I think you might be mixing posts of mine and someone else.......

lol you do like to attack me don't you............ Smiley


I will ask this of Bob or Tony........ Can I take cheap shots back, or will I get deleted?

You enjoy yourself Dee............ Smiley  Have a nice day lol......


LOL you DID delete the POST you wrote with Tony´s personal information.
You were scared, weren´t you blow boy.

I like when you say I am a Moderator. I like when you say I am CEO. I like when you say I run things all over!!!

I´m not a blowhard like you. You say you are a Mensa genius (you have the mensa part right) multiple business owner millionaire. LOL LOL LOL

I saw your pix. you are a little pip squeak.
What do they say about little men?

LOL LOL

I´m just a sweet little Mexican American granny who always writes the truth!!

See ya Blow Boy!!

I don't have any reason to delete my posts so you can take all the screen shots you want.......... lol I have screen shots too........ of you in moderator mode......
So what shall we do now? Trade screen shots? lol
I worked with the government for over 5 years catching criminals on the internet....... So I'm not worried about someone taking screen shots of my posts....  I have binders full of screen shots from way back when........... lol


I´ve made screen shots of these posts so even if he deletes them I have the proof.

Just his typical tactics!!
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MichaelC45
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #28 on: February 08, 2007, 04:19:11 PM »

Nope........ never denied posting public information about him on alipac.......

You making this up as you go along, or do you have a script you read from?


You denying what you said Blow Boy or posting Tony´s info on the bizarro site?

LOL LOL LOL

Your lies are quickly catching up to you!!


"Public information is just that........... public information......... and no, I cannot get sued for it.............. if he didn't want the information to be public he should have made the website private when it was registered.
No law against public information......"
and this
"Oh and by the way.......... I think it was necessary to post that so William has the information to hand to his lawyer to sue him for using his companies name........ You scammers are all the same........ lol "
and he is also a big blow hard:
"If you don't want your personal information on the web then be careful where and how you use it........
Remember........ Public information is just that. It's public and anyone can go see it anytime they want, and it's open to all eyes.......
I don't charge for lessons for scammers 101 ........ I busted enough of them....... "

I told the truth there. I think you might just be paranoid.





Not a problem Bob.............. Smiley  I don't have any grudges against anyone nor do I hold them...... It's not worth it.......  lol

There are hateful people in this world and there is no denying that....... but there are a lot of good people too.......... I tend to think there are more good people then bad...

I mentioned this just to illustrate how hateful some people on that site are.

It's not worth my time and money to sue ALI-PAC. They have very little in assets to pay damages, probably much less than attorneys fees. That's why I was looking at their financial statements and noticed all the irregularities.

I'm a treasurer for a political party and can read and decipher campaign finance statements. ALIPAC's statements are a mess, and they apparently don't pay their taxes! Political Action Committees don't pay federal and state income taxes, but they are required to pay employer taxes.

Gheen and Jurbala are both classified employees under federal law, but their statements show zero taxes paid. Shame on ALIPAC for always throwing stones at illegal immigrants while not paying a cent of their employer taxes!

BTW, I'm sorry if you were offended by my "biker" comment. I was referring to your avatar, which I didn't realize was your photo. Please accept my apology.
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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #29 on: February 08, 2007, 04:20:13 PM »

Has anybody else read this report about ALI-PAC? The author did some thorough research into ALI-PAC and its ties to white supremacists and border vigilantes.
http://www.buildingdemocracy.org/ali-pac.pdf

They also wrote a report on the Minutemen and their deep roots to white supremacists:
http://www.buildingdemocracy.org/reports/shellgames.pdf

Note: many ALIPACers are also Minutemen and SOSers. You can readily tell by watching web traffic statistics between the sites.
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