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« on: February 07, 2007, 12:22:43 PM »

If you’ve ever encountered someone who rages about bilingual Betty Crocker instructions or bilingual signage and Spanish language music in Sears or J.C. Penney (“J.C. Centavo”), then you’ve encountered ALIPAC.US. ALIPAC.US doesn’t know much about illegal immigration, but they sure know one when they see one! ALIPAC.US's illegal immigrants have brown complexion and speak Spanish in public, and are often found working at farms, restuarants, etc. ALIPAC doesn’t even need to see legal documents to determine their legal status either!

Here's the classic collection of ALIPAC xenophobia and latent racism, originally posted by Buford at HispanicBusiness.com:

www.hispanicbusiness.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=8275&SearchTerms=

They say they’re not anti-Hispanic or anti-immigrant but anti-ILLEGAL immigrant. That’s not true for many of them. Every now and then I'll surf the net and note something that these people comment. They claim that they are merely anti-illegal immigrant, and they stress the illegal part. They claim that they have nothing against legal immigrants and Hispanic and Latino people. But that's not the case.
   
Not only are they against illegal immigrants, but they are against Latinos, Mexico, Hispanics and anyone who doesn't hate these people. Below are just a few examples. I got most of the material from ALIPAC because I'm lazy, and ALIPAC is just overflowing with good examples.

http://tinyurl.com/2e7su3

Here a bunch of participants lament the fact that Betty Crocker includes directions in Spanish with their products. They say they only object to illegal aliens and that they do not object to Hispanics or legal immigrants. This thread shows just how absurd that claim is. In reality, they just don't like Hispanic people or the Spanish language.

http://tinyurl.com/ypbnl3

Here's a thread about some nit-wit who was offended by people in a department store speaking Spanish and by the overhead radio playing music in the Spanish language. Even William Gheen, president of ALIPAC, chimes in to suggest that she should have complained to management. He suggests that she not go back to the store again until the Spanish is removed from the PA system.
   
I can only imagine this person marching into the manager's office and saying she'll never return until they remove the Spanish from the PA system. You'd never seen a store manager so happy. Break open a couple of bottles of Inca Cola and crank up the Juan Luis Guerra because that idiot ain't comin' back.

http://tinyurl.com/yq7wb7

Here's another thread where low-foreheads complain about Spanish language music in a shoe store. Why does the Spanish language bother some people so much?

http://tinyurl.com/2gxag8

Here's a guy who was so upset about seeing brown skinned persons working at a restaurant that he wrote a letter to the manager. Basically, he saw men with brown skin, and with no additional evidence, he just assumed they were engaged in law breaking activity. Will someone please tell me whether this guy is merely anti-illegal immigrant or does he just not like Hispanic people? Otherwise please explain to me why this guy has an objection to men with brown skin working for a living?
   
Can you imagine being a restaurant manager and getting a letter from someone like this? What would a manager think? Would they laugh? Or would they be concerned?
   
http://tinyurl.com/2dmnuq

Here some geniuses object to the Home Shopping Channel being in Spanish. They assume that the customers are not likely to pay their bills simply because they speak Spanish. This is based on nothing other than that the customers will be Spanish speaking persons. Is this starting to get you angry?
   
http://tinyurl.com/28r834

Here some pinheads found an online poll, and they discuss how they intentionally tried to manipulate the poll results. The next time you hear about a poll saying that X% percent of people support this or that, remember this.
   
http://tinyurl.com/2gpsxd

Here a chump objects to Dominos Pizza printing coupons in Spanish. He describes how he contacts the chain's headquarters to tell them that he will no longer be ordering Dominos pizza.
   
If these idiots keep their promises to not transact with companies that advertise in Spanish or have Spanish speaking or brown skinned workers, then they'll be eating nothing but bugs and grass from their backyard.
   
http://tinyurl.com/2c4ltg

Here is a patriot objecting to Mexican style food being served in Appleby's restaurant. Notice how they don't complain about Thai food or Italian food being served. No. The only objection is to Mexican style food being served.
   
Are these people merely against illegal immigration as they claim or do they just plain hate Mexicans? We report. You decide.
   
http://tinyurl.com/25vdo9

Here is someone objecting to General Mills marketing a product in Spanish. One guy writes, "These companies do not no [sic] the word 'loyal'..." That's pretty funny.
   
http://tinyurl.com/2zauyn

This is just an example of how dumb these idiots are. The nit wit deleted his original comments, but I'll tell you what he said. He walks into a convenience store and sees a fellow idiot buying Miller Beer. The anti-Hispanic movement is currently boycotting Miller Beer http://tinyurl.com/ggxf8 so idiot #1 tells idiot #2 that Miller supports illegal immigrants and that he should buy another type of beer. Idiot #2 puts down the Miller and picks up a 12-pack of Ice House. The original post now deleted included a picture of idiot #2 holding his case of Ice House and flashing a smile revealing rotting teeth and pyorrhea ridden gums meanwhile giving the finger to a six pack of Miller Beer.
   
Ice House is made by the Miller Brewing Company.
   
By the way, the stock of SAB Miller is higher now than it was when they started the boycott.
   
http://tinyurl.com/23tv2h

The National Football League is trying to develop an audience of Latinos. It even has a website NFLatino.com These *****s object to this. What's more American than football except General Mills cereal and Betty Crocker? But these people hate Hispanic people so much that they object to their assimilation into society. They even don't want Spanish speaking people to be introduced to American football.
   
http://tinyurl.com/2fkz7m

Here's another case where a guy objects to men with brown skin working in a restaurant. He also assumes, based on no other information than their appearance and the language they are speaking, that they are law breakers, and he contemplates calling authorities to report them.
   
That's not all. That's not the worst. Something scary is the threats of violence. The moderators of ALIPAC want to keep this out of public view, and they will delete any comment that suggests violence. There have been many. Some people talk about wanting to shoot people trying to cross the border. Others suggest land mines. Still others think that a civil war in this country is inevitable and recommend that the anti-Hispanic movement take up arms.
   
These are just some examples I found from light surfing one website.
   
I want to highlight that just because one or many of these people think this way, that doesn't mean that they ALL think that way. There are many in the anti-immigrant community who are probably good hearted, reasonably intelligent people who are just ignorant or are being deceived by the hatred and the lies that these other evil people spread.
   
Final Thoughts
   
Have you ever heard about someone being upset by having to press "1" for English? Every now and then some buffoon with Pamela Anderson as his avatar will write a rant about that. The comfort that we have is this: if these idiots get so upset about something so insignificant as having to press a button with one of their fingers, then you know that there ain't nothin' that won't bother them. They must be the most miserable people in the world if they get their panties all in a bunch over something so insignificant.
   
I've met a lot of immigrants, and I've generally found them to be pretty cool people. My block has people from India, Viet Nam, Bahamas, Africa, Mexico and Central America. I've met immigrants from Nepal, Portugal, China, Thailand, Burma, Korea, Canada, England, Cambodia, and people from all over the Americas. They come here with bright eyes. This is the land of opportunity. This is a place where you can work and live in peace and achieve the American dream. It's a happy place. People are optimistic when they cross that border or get off that plane.
   
By and large they're happy people. They're optimistic. They expect good things to happen. When they see an American their eyes light up, and they're willing to meet and greet and make friends.
   
But something is happening in this country. Hateful people are spreading lies

http://www.breakpoint.org/listingarticle.asp?ID=2438 and propaganda

http://www.amazon.com/State-Emergency-Invasion-Conquest-America/dp/0312360037/sr=8-/qid=1162308291/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-6966986-4823121?ie=UTF8&s=books

 , and ignorant people are taking it in. A cauldron of hate is brewing, and a lot of people are sensing it. Minute Men are on the street protesting people with brown skin who are only looking for work. Cities passing laws that prohibit renting rooms to certain people. Several Mexican men were murdered a few months ago. These people were more upset that the Mexican flag was flown than they were about the murders of fathers, brothers, sons, loved ones. You know what I'm talking about. I don't need to describe it any further.
   
This is disturbing, and it is polarizing our communities. As a white guy, Latinos used to like me. For some reason they liked having a white guy as a friend. Senoritas seemed to be attracted to me. But nowadays it's a lot different. Some of the people are not as friendly. They're more wary than anything else. Senoritas don't seem to be as attracted to me anymore either. That really hurts.
   
UPDATES:

http://tinyurl.com/2gc5ls

a guy says that he refuses to buy products that have the Spanish language on the package and that when he finds such a product he writes a nasty e-mail. One guy refers to Spanish speaking people as "invaders" nevermind that the majority of people who use the Spanish language are here legally or are citizens. Another guy gets upset that a portion of donations to the Literacy Fund might benefit Hispanics. Another guy bought some candy and threw it out after having noticed that it was made in Mexico.
   
http://tinyurl.com/yrydvb

Taco Bell is considering expanding it's Latino customer base by advertising in Spanish. A participant at ALIPAC encourages others to express their opinions about it. IT'S TACO BELL FOR CRYIN' OUT LOUD!!!!!!!!
http://tinyurl.com/yo3pdz

Here's a classic by mkfarnam himself. Don't you love it how in a forum someone writes "Your a *****." That is so iron. I love irony. In the above referenced thread Dec 29 10:43 pm, mkfarnam writes with respect to Latino landscaping workers "their idiots".
   
http://tinyurl.com/27u544

Here is a discussion about the pizza restaurant that accepts Mexican pesos. One person claims to be discriminated against. One person claims that they’re racist. I suppose he would conclude that Victoria’s Secret is sexist because they don’t market their underwear to men. Without any evidence to support his claim (common at ALIPAC), the guy concludes that they wouldn’t hire anyone who isn’t Hispanic and young. Our friend gusgriswald commented that it is “straight up discrimination on so many levels”. He never explains how it’s discrimination. It would actually be discrimination if the DID NOT accept pesos.
   
Another commenter suggested they change the name to “Pizza Ecoli”. He believes, based on the fact that they target the Hispanic market in their advertising, that they therefore are unsanitary.
   
http://tinyurl.com/2ygk85

Here an ALIPACker goes to a job site and takes pictures of men working. Excuse me. I meant he takes pictures of brown skinned men working. One must ponder what is the purpose of this. Why post these pictures on a web forum that is anti-illegal?

Note: I edited the links to use TinyURL instead of directly linking ALIPAC.US, not wanting to give that site more links!
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2007, 05:02:08 PM »

ALIPAC-US needs to be taken off the net.  Angry Angry
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2007, 07:23:15 PM »

W said ALIPAC.US would shut down if they don't raise enough money by February 10, but just extended to Feb. 15th. Here's what he said:

http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=50639
"ALIPAC has a budget shortfall following the election and holiday season. Therefore, ALIPAC must raise $15,000 by February 10, 2007 to remain in operation. "
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2007, 10:49:03 PM »

Hello Bob..........

Can't say all people are Xenophobic.... some are and some aren't....... There are faults on both sides and I can't say one is worse then the other....... or one is better then the other.......


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« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2007, 06:04:33 AM »

Michael,

Welcome to ALIPAC.NET! Are you the same Michael45 that posts on ALIPAC.US? If you are would you please remove Tony's personal information. I never post W's personal information and neither should you post Tony's. Thanks.

We hope this will become a forum where people can have serious dialog about immigration without constantly being insulted, harassed, etc. Many of the other members here I met on HispanicBusiness.com, and I have to say that while I don't always agree with them, they have been civil to me. However, there are a number of ALI-PAC trolls on HB who make nasty personal attacks, smears, post personal information to intimidate, etc.

As with any group, there is some diversity within ALI-PAC, but anyone who disagrees with W or some of his admins is quickly booted. There are a bunch of anti-illegal immigrant activists over on BelieveInAmerica.com who were all banned from ALIPAC for silly reasons, often minor differences of opinion, less xenophobic, etc. Some ALIPACers were nice to me, but the negatives far outweighed the positives. I still browse ALIPAC.US sometimes and do find some good information, but there I find I have to question the information sources as I've seen some really bad info too.

I was a member for about two months, and I am very moderate and certainly not xenophobic. Some other members and even some moderators are reasonable, while others are rather nasty and could be described as W's "accolytes", doing everything  he asks, trolling on other boards, etc. Unfortunately most of the leadership seems to be xenophobic and not very friendly to those with different viewpoints.

I started questioning and challending posts from others that weren't just anti-illegal immigrant but anti-Hispanic as well, or advocated extreme measures that would hurt legal immigrants as well. They piled onto me like a pack of wolves, basically stating if you're not with us then you're against us, etc. When I say "they" that included many of the leadership such as their admin 2ndamendsis. 

The same has happened to many others as well. It seems that either you're as xenophobic as they are or you're an OBL. There are no true moderates there, at least not any that are vocal. If you're Hispanic and disagree with them, then you're a reconquista, Aztlanista, etc. Wild conspiracy theories seem to rule at ALI-PAC.

I wrote to W and complained there were posts left on the boards which were personal attacks and others at least latently racist, my posts that were all within the rules were being deleted without explanation (an ALIPAC rule),  the behavior of some of his mods, and I promised to get back to him a short time later with sample posts. Before I could even get back to him - we're talking about a couple of hours - he sent me an e-mail, booting me, claiming that I'm an open borders liberal, etc.

W's e-mail to me and many of his posts on ALI-PAC show that he's xenophobic and even seems paranoid at times. In his e-mail, he even referred to "restoring our Republic", as if we had already lost it! While we have a problem that needs to be solved, I certainly don't think we have been invaded, lost our Republic, are about to secretly merge with Canada and Mexico without approval of Congress, etc.

I am certainly no open borders liberal and I have never supported amnesty. I want our system of laws to work, and sensible reforms to ensure U.S. companies that need to import more unskilled workers can do so legally, that families are not kept divided for long times, etc. I want sensible enforcement measures that do not hurt legal immigrants, especially those waiting for Immigration to process status changes, assylum requests, etc.

I don't agree with the decisions of those who are here illegally, neither do I demonize all of them as is common on ALI-PAC except the small minority who truely are demons (i.e. MS-13, criminal aliens, sex offenders, etc.). IMHO the large majority of illegal immigrants came here to work and not to prey on others.
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« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2007, 09:35:39 AM »

Michael,

Welcome to ALIPAC.NET! Are you the same Michael45 that posts on ALIPAC.US? If you are would you please remove Tony's personal information. I never post W's personal information and neither should you post Tony's. Thanks.

I am one in the same........ and thanks for the welcome........ I have already modified the post......


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We hope this will become a forum where people can have serious dialog about immigration without constantly being insulted, harassed, etc. Many of the other members here I met on HispanicBusiness.com, and I have to say that while I don't always agree with them, they have been civil to me. However, there are a number of ALI-PAC trolls on HB who make nasty personal attacks, smears, post personal information to intimidate, etc'

You mean like when you drug my name over there and made comments about me? lol Don't worry...... I forgive you.......... Wink

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As with any group, there is some diversity within ALI-PAC, but anyone who disagrees with W or some of his admins is quickly booted. There are a bunch of anti-illegal immigrant activists over on BelieveInAmerica.com who were all banned from ALIPAC for silly reasons, often minor differences of opinion, less xenophobic, etc. Some ALIPACers were nice to me, but the negatives far outweighed the positives. I still browse ALIPAC.US sometimes and do find some good information, but there I find I have to question the information sources as I've seen some really bad info too.

His forum not mine............ I have no say as to how a person runs their forum nor do I always agree with things............ And I have been on a lot of forums.......... been booted from a few too....... I always say if you don't like the forum then start your own.

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I was a member for about two months, and I am very moderate and certainly not xenophobic. Some other members and even some moderators are reasonable, while others are rather nasty and could be described as W's "accolytes", doing everything  he asks, trolling on other boards, etc. Unfortunately most of the leadership seems to be xenophobic and not very friendly to those with different viewpoints.

If you want to have a decent conversation then calling people racists or xenophobic or other names is not going to promote civil conversation..... Fault is on both sides..... I have seen this countless times when people seem to be losing the arguement or they get frustraited.

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I started questioning and challending posts from others that weren't just anti-illegal immigrant but anti-Hispanic as well, or advocated extreme measures that would hurt legal immigrants as well. They piled onto me like a pack of wolves, basically stating if you're not with us then you're against us, etc. When I say "they" that included many of the leadership such as their admin 2ndamendsis. 

I am not familiar with the admin who you speak of.......... I just have my own little corner there and that is mostly where I stay. I do read the posts and if I agree with something I will say so........ and If I don't agree with someone when they post directly to me then I will answer them........ and tell them why.........
 
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The same has happened to many others as well. It seems that either you're as xenophobic as they are or you're an OBL. There are no true moderates there, at least not any that are vocal. If you're Hispanic and disagree with them, then you're a reconquista, Aztlanista, etc. Wild conspiracy theories seem to rule at ALI-PAC.

Seems I've seen the same on some pro illega sites too...........

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I wrote to W and complained there were posts left on the boards which were personal attacks and others at least latently racist, my posts that were all within the rules were being deleted without explanation (an ALIPAC rule),  the behavior of some of his mods, and I promised to get back to him a short time later with sample posts. Before I could even get back to him - we're talking about a couple of hours - he sent me an e-mail, booting me, claiming that I'm an open borders liberal, etc.

W's e-mail to me and many of his posts on ALI-PAC show that he's xenophobic and even seems paranoid at times. In his e-mail, he even referred to "restoring our Republic", as if we had already lost it! While we have a problem that needs to be solved, I certainly don't think we have been invaded, lost our Republic, are about to secretly merge with Canada and Mexico without approval of Congress, etc.

We haven't? hummmm seems like I heard something about the new world order many years ago and at first I just blew it off......... untill I started seeing things happen......... and they continue to happen....... and this is all in the name of Free Trade? lol

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I am certainly no open borders liberal and I have never supported amnesty. I want our system of laws to work, and sensible reforms to ensure U.S. companies that need to import more unskilled workers can do so legally, that families are not kept divided for long times, etc. I want sensible enforcement measures that do not hurt legal immigrants, especially those waiting for Immigration to process status changes, assylum requests, etc.

I don't advocate open borders either, but I am not in agreement that alot of these companies need more imported workers......  As far as families being divided, there are many pipeline workers here in the US that do just that....... they are away from their families for months at a time.
I am for support of the law, and the government has yet to prove they can control and enforce our laws. Any new legislation means nothing since it is just a bandaid to appease the masses....... This will just be another failed attempt by the government to make things right. They already proved they cannot do the jobs or enforce the laws already on the books. They only cover their mistakes by saying we are going to pass ANOTHER comprehensive immigration bill.........Untill they are held accountable for their past mistakes, they are doomed to repeat them over and over again.

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I don't agree with the decisions of those who are here illegally, neither do I demonize all of them as is common on ALI-PAC except the small minority who truely are demons (i.e. MS-13, criminal aliens, sex offenders, etc.). IMHO the large majority of illegal immigrants came here to work and not to prey on others.

I don't demonize all of them either........ but if you cannot control the borders then you can not control the criminal element......... and the government has yet to demonstrate they can control the border ............. for now or any long term........

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« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2007, 11:49:21 AM »

Are you suggesting MC that all people who migrate from the southern border are "criminal elements".  If so then the choice word of xenophobia describing ALI-PAC's mental policy is true.
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« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2007, 12:00:26 PM »

If you can show me in my post where I suggested this please point it out to me........ If you want to debate the criminal element that crosses the border we can do that, as also we can debate all outside the criminal element too........
Anyone who used the word xenophobic about anyone is just being an armchair psychologist......... and before I would believe anyones diagnosis of this disorder, they would have to provide credentials that they have a degree in psychology......


Are you suggesting MC that all people who migrate from the southern border are "criminal elements".  If so then the choice word of xenophobia describing ALI-PAC's mental policy is true.
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« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2007, 01:07:18 PM »

LaVerdad and Bob,

Be careful what you say to this guy.
Alipac.com started a whole thread called "Alipac Parody." They are doing nothing but making fun of this site.

MC wrote private information about Tony.

I´ve seen his posts on other forums and he makes plenty of trouble. Very negative.

Let me give you examples.
He just said he deleted the personal stats on Tony. I just checked and he did NOT delete them
http://www.alipac.us/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=53681
scroll down to the bottom of the page and there they are. The 3rd to last message.

He is pretending to be nice here but here is what he said there:
"Public information is just that........... public information......... and no, I cannot get sued for it.............. if he didn't want the information to be public he should have made the website private when it was registered.
No law against public information......"
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"Oh and by the way.......... I think it was necessary to post that so William has the information to hand to his lawyer to sue him for using his companies name........ You scammers are all the same........ lol "
and he is also a big blow hard:
"If you don't want your personal information on the web then be careful where and how you use it........
Remember........ Public information is just that. It's public and anyone can go see it anytime they want, and it's open to all eyes.......
I don't charge for lessons for scammers 101 ........ I busted enough of them....... "


All of this are just MCs typic evil tactics!!


Are you suggesting MC that all people who migrate from the southern border are "criminal elements".  If so then the choice word of xenophobia describing ALI-PAC's mental policy is true.
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« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2007, 01:10:16 PM »

I´ve made screen shots of these posts so even if he deletes them I have the proof.

Just his typical tactics!!
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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2007, 01:50:55 PM »

A couple of comments. First, MC did finally remove Tony's personal information from his post. I just checked.

He is correct in asserting that not everyone on ALI-PAC is xenophobic. I don't recall stating that everyone there is xenophobic or a latent racist. However, there are quite a few there that say they're only concerned about illegal immigration and then you read their posts and they're saying bad things about brown skinned people speaking Spanish when they don't even know their status. I see lots of assumptions that in many situations Hispanic people speaking Spanish are presumed to be illegal immigrants, while in truth many legal immigrants and citizens speak Spanish in public too.

ALI-PAC can make all the fun of this site they want to, but I believe it is an excellent medium, very well organized information. I can guarantee you that W is paying close attention to us, and probably kicking himself that he didn't lock the domain name or copyright the term "ALIPAC." We have every right to use the domain name ALIPAC.NET, and right on the home page there is a disclaimer that we are not affiliated with the other ALIPAC.

BTW, there is an Americans for Legal Immigration (no PAC). On their home page they state they're not affiliated with ALIPAC. Note their "public notice" on their home page:
http://www.noillegals.com/
This is the Original AMERICANS FOR LEGAL IMMIGRATION SITE (The Real One) and is NOT a PAC. We are not here to separate you from your money or to look more important than we are.

Hmmm....makes you wonder why they would distance themselves from ALIPAC...
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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2007, 02:11:04 PM »

One other thing. When I was active at ALIPAC I never called anyone a racist or xenophobe there, but from time to time I did challenge statistics that seemed very anti-Hispanic and had not basis in fact, and disagreed with measures that would hurt legal immigrants.

2ndamendsis kept trying to put the word "racist" in my mouth, but I stuck to facts and figures and let readers draw their own conclusions. She did post that my wife is an illegal immigrant, though my wife is not and never has been one. She refused to delete her allegation. W booted me when I complained about the libel, editing my posts to discredit me, etc. The post was still there the last time I checked. That is definitely lawsuit material, but they're not worth the time and expense to go after them.

Examples:
Statement that 98% of illegal immigrants are Hispanic and 90% of those are Mexicans. The truth is around 70% of illegal immigrants are Hispanic, and 57% of total illegal immigrants are Mexican.
Hispanics Hispanic legal immigrants and citizens deserve backlash because 100% of them aid and abet illegal immigration, either helping them or not reporting them to ICE. Certainly not true!
100% of day laborers are illegal immigrants. Not supported by the few surveys done. ALIPACers thought it OK to harass day laborers on the theory that most are illegal immigrants and "collatoral damage" is acceptable in fighting the problem.
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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2007, 02:16:24 PM »

Bob,

Forget that crowd. They are a bunch of MM retirees sitting in their closets typing on their PCs in their jammies in the bedroom of their Trailer! They pick thei weirdest avatars too. Shades of Deliverance!!

They have nothing better to do.

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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2007, 02:41:10 PM »

While I usually thumb my nose at such antics, knowing full well the people who do such things are at worst harmless, there is always that lunatic nut fringe that reads bulletin boards and get stupid ideas in their heads.

While I have two forms of Renter's Insurance (the one from Allstate and the one from Remmington,) I don't want to take the chance that one of my neighbors might get hurt or worse just because Randy Redneck sees my info on a web site and decides he wants to "teach me a lesson I'll never fergit." So I've decided to let GoDaddy hide my info from prying eyes, so it's all a moot point.

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Re: Xenophobia at ALI-PAC
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2007, 03:20:31 PM »

I had my personal information posted on HB, including name, address, phone, and even a map of my neighborhood! The moderator removed it and the practice is banned on HB.
Thanks Oscar!

One of the ALIPACers posted my name on a newspaper web site afte I commented about ALIPAC. Additionally, they posted I support child brides, importing sex offenders, and people should check the Minnesota sex offender registry for interesting information (of course I'm not listed on any such registry). The mods deleted that post within minutes after reporting it.

There likely is still a post on ALIPAC that my wife is an illegal immigrant, though she never posted there and I already told Gheen and the person who posted that is blatantly false. They just don't care who they hurt! Too bad they don't have enough to be worth suing, because that is prime lawsuit material.
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