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Topic: Xenophobia at ALIPAC (.US) (Read 25685 times)
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bob1388
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But they're not anti-Hispanic though...just ask William Gheen.  He called the news article "propoganda."
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Pippah
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Freakin Gweeny boy if NOTHING but a propagandist (misleading)....like he has room to be saying ANYTHING. All one has to do is take a lQQk at his site, it's riddle with hatred & lies.
...........and ALL for his 'personal' gain...
So for those of YOU that support Gweeny boy and his 'personal' agenda...when the sh!t hits the fan I hope YOU know you'll be smiling with brown stains on your teeth..
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bob1388
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I was being facicious. Did you see my eyes rolling?
I don't think Gheen has any supporters here, only guest viewers checking this thread out, and probably Gheen ' hisself.'
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SenorGuapo
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http://tinyurl.com/3xx7a8
Someone was "banned for being and OBL supporter". I don't know what this person did. Not only did they ban the person, but it seems as if they deleted all the comments. It must have been very damaging to their cause.
They've said before that they permit dissenting opinions. We've known for a long time that they'll ban anyone for disagreeing. Maybe this is a step toward them being more honest. What do you think?
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tony_cheek
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Sounds more like somebody got their panties in a bunch and zapped all the comments.
Typical, really.
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bob1388
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Here's their rules. Now which one prohibits someone from having a different opinion? Note how they put rule #6 at the top to state posts on their web site do not represent ALIPAC positions? We if individual posts don't represent ALIPAC positions, then why do they need to ban someone and delete their posts because they have a different opinion?
http://tinyurl.com/2ojt8a
Note their definition of race baiting, which they liberally interpret to mean any post that questions the latent or even overt racism or xenophobia pervasive on ALIPAC.US.
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Pippah
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http://tinyurl.com/3xx7a8Someone was "banned for being and OBL supporter". I don't know what this person did. Not only did they ban the person, but it seems as if they deleted all the comments. It must have been very damaging to their cause. They've said before that they permit dissenting opinions. We've known for a long time that they'll ban anyone for disagreeing. Maybe this is a step toward them being more honest. What do you think?
SenorGuapo....It was 'me' that they 'completely' banned from their site...
My initial comment/and or question was to one of their poster's asking them 'if they thought' their comment about the Mexican flag being on toilet paper wouldn't offend those that had Mexican Ancestry...that was my question....
Then all of sudden....I had their 'Superhero' moderator...greet me with a 'Warning' meanwhile other 'RABID' members were calling my all sorts of negative names (personally attacking me, which I thought was against the TOS) and they were not being 'warned' by their so call 'superhero' either...even after I had brought it to his/her attention.....Well....I held composure until I got fed up and told their 'superhero' that I had not been able to express views on the immigration, but instead had to go on a tit for tat with their 'rabid' members...in which...the comment 'rabid members' caused my banned...So,
If they are talking about or have even remotely expressed for the allowance of dissenting views...they are a bunch of lying 'rabid' old buzzardsl....
.....AND yes Alipacer's....you can tell YOUR Gweeny boy....that this post came from 'PIPPAH' the one his so-call 'superhero' moderator censored, because THEY were TOO freakin scared to face the truth, as Gweeny boy had my post removed because he COULDN'T refute them ......
Better yet....tell 'Gweeny boy' I 'Pippah', said..... him and his 'superhero' moderator are both Vaginas!
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SenorGuapo
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If they didn't threaten to sue you or report you to the FBI, then you probably didn't do anything THAT bad. Sometimes they get very strict when they have what they think is important activism to attend to. Gheen doesn't want his followers to be distracted with dissenting opinions right now. They're busy learning how to block caller ID so that they can misrepresent themselves to senators.
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bob1388
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They did worse to me. First, they got really nasty when I didn't agree with some of their more extreme positions. Then I tried to explain about how LEGAL immigrants get the runaround from Social Security and other agencies, and they posted in a PUBLIC FORUM that my wife is an illegal immigrant. Those posts are still there.
I sent a PM to the admin who posted this nonsense that her statement was completely false, that my wife has never been here illegally, and to please remove it. I refused to engage in a public debate about whether my wife is a criminal or not.
First, that's really none of their damned business, and second debating an allegation like that is a little like answering a question like "so when did you start beating your wife?" Dignifying such a question implies there's truth to it. The proper answer is not to refuse to respond, in other words refuse to dignify the question with an answer.
I finally wrote to Gheen himself complaining about the illegal immigrant false allegation, that my posts were being selectively censored, that his moderators and admins were making personal attacks, violating their rules, etc. Gheen's response was to label me a "closet open borders liberal" and to ban me. In other words, you can be on the same side of the immigration issue with them, but if you are less extreme than they are then you are a "closet open borders liberal."
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iamme
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I agree with both Happip and Bob. I saw the posts they're talking about and I can tell you that nothing justified their being banned. Bob was just trying to defend that not all Hispanics are illegal immigrants and for that, he got called on for race baiting?? It was downhill from there, as that justification enough for some moderators to call Bob on the immigration status of his wife. It is why these people should never have any say so on things they know nothing about. To someone who doesn't know the process of becoming legal, the question posed sounded like a valid reason to assume Bob's wife was illegal.
In Happip's case, I read her comment about the Mexican flag and agree that she said nothing that would break any of the forum rules. Immediately it was labled as race baiting. It's the only forum rule they rely on when silencing opposing views. Race baiting to them is mentioning Mexico or Mexican, and following the word with something positive or something in defense of.
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Pippah
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If they didn't threaten to sue you or report you to the FBI, then you probably didn't do anything THAT bad. Sometimes they get very strict when they have what they think is important activism to attend to. Gheen doesn't want his followers to be distracted with dissenting opinions right now. They're busy learning how to block caller ID so that they can misrepresent themselves to senators.
LMSAO @ Caller I.D blocking.... you know SenorGuapo, actually Im not in the least worried about them banning me from their site, as I have better & more positive things on my agenda, and although I despise people like them I will not sit all day b & m about them on a pc, but rather put opposition into action in a more diplomatic way.
However, I must also admit...that I too sometimes get bored and need comical relief, which is why I registered on their forum....some of the things said/posted on that forum are outrageous, so outrageous their funny...
..And as far as them calling the alphabet boys....they dont know who their dealing with... 
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« Last Edit: May 20, 2007, 11:25:17 AM by Pippah »
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bob1388
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I let the admin who posted that accusation know via PM that my family had always been legal, in case there was a misunderstanding, but she refused to back down and kept trying to engage me in a debate, and moreover kept trying to claim I called her a racist, which is absolute nonsense.
At ALIPAC.US you can bash Hispanics all you want, but if you question anyone's Hispanic bashing then you are a "race baiter." I'm sorry, but asking someone to back up their claims with statistics is not race baiting, not even according to ALIPAC.US's definition on their web site.
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iamme
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Aren't some of these stations NOT in America? I could be wrong, but some of the stations here air in Mexico and are viewed here. They're obviously very popular as is, or else it wouldn't be a business. Telemundo and Univision obviously have survived so long without subtitles. American's obviously don't mind these stations so long as they have their own channels to view.
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