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http://immigrationclearinghouse.org/another-humiliating-defeat-for-alipac-and-william-gheen
"ALIPAC’s William Gheen is in apparent seclusion tonight after his humiliation before the North Carolina Community College Board, which voted in September to allow undocumented immigrants to attend their 58 colleges.
In a packed hearing room of the State Archives building, supporters of this proposal outnumbered opponents 9 to 1. 51 of the 57 signed up to speak were in favor of the proposition..."
It has a dozen comments, including one from Jim Gilcrist:
Dear Americans (including you extremists on both the ultra-right and the ultra-left),
If “Willy the Whale” Gheen had not been such a divisive element in the immigration law enforcement advocacy movement he would have had several other independent minuteman organizations supporting him and ALIPAC. Instead, he ushered in “the Minuteman Wars” by routinely attacking other groups who would not goose-step to his ideology and pay him homage as some kind of bogus savior of mankind. Also, Gheen intentionally fails to include persons of all races, colors, and creeds, etc. in his organization.
And, finally, anyone with such an incurable hatred towards wounded U.S. combat veterans will never have friends in mainstream America. He is either jealous of those of us who fought in U.S. wars because he never served his country in any military capacity, or, he despises veterans as a foolish and unintelligent segment of U.S. society.
I wonder if Gheen now regrets sponsoring a “destroy Gilchrist and the MInuteman Project” campaign back in 2007…a campaing that continues to this day? Not too bright. Anyone who wants to knock out their allies to appease their egos, or satisfy their greed for sole access to a public donor base, will never succeed in their cause. Like the racist/fascist notorious Jeff Schwilk of the San Diego Minutemen (SDMM), Willy Gheen is a major public failure when it comes to addressing the immigration issue.
But, in all fairness, Naui and the Brown Berets are no different. They, like Schwilk’s SDMM and Gheen’s ALIPAC, are as racist, fascist, sexist and “phobic” as the Black Panthers, the American Indian Movement (AIM), the Nazis, the KKK, the Jewish Defense League (JDL), the Anti-Defamation League (ADL), the Asian Gangs, and dozens of other extremists shuffling around the country.
However, I am less likely to be pummeled or murdered by Naui than I am by Gheen or Schwilk, in my humble opinion. Naui may be a nuisance, misinformed, uninformed, or earnestly trying to provoke someone to punch his lights out, but he has never been violent in the many times I have encountered him. And he does usually show up at events with a white woman alongside, albeit just as misinformed as he is, so he is attempting to cure himself of that “racist” tag.
A final word of advise to Gheen and Schwilk: If you want to play to win, you must play fair, not mean.
Jim Gilchrist, President, The Minuteman Project – A multi ethnic immigration law enforcement advocacy group –
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Did you see Gheen's whine-rant at ALIcrap? I was about to call 911. Somebody needs a whaaaaaaaaaaaambulance!!
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Here is the Willy Whine (http://tinyurl.com/yjbekct) at Brand X:
The December 18, 2009, public input meeting required by law on the matter of the N.C. Community College Board giving illegal aliens access to our colleges was rigged.
It was rigged in several ways.
First, the meeting was placed on a workday morning the Friday before Christmas, when taxpayers that are working would be unable to attend.
Second, there were no N.C. Community College Board members even present at this meeting! It appears they could not even take time off to be there, and the crowd was assured that our comments would be delivered to the board members and they would receive and review all of our comments and letters. Pretty shabby that not one board member attended the meeting.
Third, the illegal aliens and their supporters had special insider knowledge and treatment. They arrived and were allowed to sign in to speak at 8 a.m., or two hours prior to the advertised start of the meeting.
When confronted with this information, the state employees running the meeting lied to citizens and the press. When I asked them what time sign-ups began, they claimed 9 a.m. I pointed out that was impossible since it was 9:03 a.m. and I was signing in as speaker #35! Their story then changed to the claim that sign ups started at 8:30 a.m.
The meeting organizer and the women running the sign up table continued to lie and claim that sign-ups began at 8:30 a.m., even when confronted by Ron Woodard of NC Listen, Randy Dye of Randy's Right blog, and James Johnson of NC Fire who signed in as speakers 28, 29, and 30 at 8:25 a.m.!
We have video evidence of an event organizer telling Randy Dye, who had signed in as speaker #29 earlier at 8:25 a.m., that sign ups began at 8:30 a.m. We gave the main event organizer on film making the same false claim and she is on record with WRAL making that 8:30 a.m. claim as well.
Another lie we were told was that nobody was allowed to sign up anyone else. I asked that question directly and was told "under no circumstances".
Later, we found out that one of our supporters, Mrs. Norton (Speaker number 47) had been signed up by her young friend that assisted her at the event. Her young friend, who had signed her in and was handed a slip by the ladies at the table without Mrs. Norton present, had the appearance of a young and liberal college student much like the young protesters that were all signed in to speak prior to 8:30 a.m.
We documented and can prove that middle-aged white males were told they could not sign anyone else, as the assigned speaking time was almost full, while a teenager, with a blue streak of hair similar in age demographic and social style to the pro-illegal alien protesters, was allowed to sign in another person.
The fact that illegal alien supporters were indeed signing up other people was evidenced when speaker #25 was confronted by the presiding officer for not being the person signed up in that position after he announced his name. When confronted he responded "Oh she had to leave" and then was allowed to proceed. The young students and their handlers were well aware of their abilities to exploit the meeting rules with full assistance and cover from those conducting this political charade.
Illegal alien supporters had special access to those planning this meeting and were aware that they could show up and sign in two hours in advance to fill up time and give a false impression of spontaneous support for illegals in our community colleges.
The results were that the first 26 speakers, comprising the first 78 of 150 minutes of testimony to the N.C. Community College Board and the N.C. media were all in favor of illegal aliens attending our community colleges, which are currently turning innocent Americans away because they are over capacity.
Six people, myself included, spoke out on behalf of the 70-81% of NC citizens who oppose illegal aliens being in our community colleges.
Fifty-one people, mostly high school and college students, college professors, and college administrators, who are out on Christmas vacation, were present to support the illegal aliens.
Of course, we would have preferred that more people that are against taxpayer benefits for illegal aliens had come to this meeting to speak out. We did our best to notify people five days prior, but we were heavily engaged fighting against the new Amnesty bill in Washington D.C. American apathy is a huge reason illegal immigration is rampant, but what we faced at the Dec. 18 meeting had been in the planning by the pro-illegal alien faction for many months. The illegal alien supporting faction had an advantage over us in numbers attending, insider connections and information, preferential treatment, time to prepare, funding, and staff dedicated to their goals.
Many of the people who came to speak out against illegal aliens being granted access to our community colleges were not allowed to speak because the meeting ended at 12:30 p.m. and the event organizers made it clear they would not extend the time allowed.
Anyone who signed up to speak at the meeting after approximately 9:20 a.m., for a meeting that was barely advertised to the public as starting at 10 a.m., was not allowed to speak. Many left the meeting early, realizing their time had been wasted and their participation had been blocked by the illegal alien supporter exploitation of the process, insider information, and preferential treatment.
One such speaker deprived of a chance to present was a County Commissioner bearing a commission resolution opposing access for illegals to our colleges.
Instead of using my three minutes to make my points on this matter, I spent my three minutes warning the public and the press that the political theater they were witnessing in the room was rigged and not representative of the views of the public.
I had intended to use my time to point out to the N.C. Community College Board, media, and public that a decision to grant illegal aliens access to our community colleges was not a simple rule change to be approved by a board made up of appointees. A matter of this magnitude should require a debate and vote by the N.C. General Assembly to allow taxpayers the highest level of representation in this matter.
Those of us who are aware that 70-81% of our legal American citizens oppose illegal aliens going to our colleges are quite aware that the N.C. Board of Community Colleges is doing the political dirty work here to avoid Democratic lawmakers from taking the heat for this unpopular and harmful move.
I had also hoped to point out that millions of Americans are now aware that what behind-the-scenes powers are trying to do for illegal aliens here in N.C. is only a small part of a much larger plan that is in progress across the nation, and that the plans involving illegal aliens, taxpayer benefits for illegal aliens, and future voting rights for illegal aliens are all happening without public or Congressional approval and in violation of the existing laws of the United States.
The bureaucrats who are formulating college access for illegal aliens are working hard not to alarm the public and to soothe any and all concerns while manufacturing appearances of broad support for their plans.
Two consistent claims are that American students will not be treated unfairly and that illegal aliens will not be given any special or preferential treatment, and the illegals will have to pay out-of-state admission prices, which are very high.
Yet, state employees overtly lied to the media and public on Dec. 18, 2009, and illegal aliens and their supporters were given both special information, support, placement, and treatment that were not afforded to the general public at this meeting. A large volume of those speaking out for the illegals also demanded in-state tuition rates for illegal aliens which was soundly defeated in 2005 when HB 1183 collapsed under massive public pressure.
JWP Civitas polling later determined in 2006 that 81% of N.C. likely voters were less likely to vote for any state lawmaker who supported in-state tuition for illegal immigrants.
So we learned for a fact on Dec. 18, 2009, that the state employees and agencies promoting illegal alien access to community colleges are lying, are working in collusion with the illegal-alien supporters, and the eventual goal is to give illegal aliens taxpayer subsidized in-state tuition, as we have seen in ten other states!
The testimony and opinions of those that support in-state tuition and college access for illegal aliens has been sullied by the unethical tactics deployed by those conducting political theater with this meeting.
This report is being sent to N.C. lawmakers, media, and members of the public to raise awareness of the deceptive, unethical, improper, and possibly illegal actions taken by state employees, agents of the N.C. Community College Board, and illegal-alien supporters on Dec. 18, 2009.
On behalf of the vast majority of North Carolina citizens who do not want any non-emergency medical taxpayer benefits for illegal aliens, including no college access, licenses, or in-state tuition, that the N.C. Community College Board refer this matter to the N.C. Legislature immediately.
We call on our elected officials at the N.C. General Assembly to call for the matter to be resolved via legislation, instead of bureaucratic orders from non-elected state employees.
We would also like to see a full investigation into the public input meeting of Dec. 18, 2009, to determine which state employees gave special information, special treatment to the illegal-alien supporting faction and what power brokers behind the scenes secured this unfair advantage over the general public...
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[I'm not sure what was going on - perhaps the wahhh meter was preventing a full posting...]
...State government and all government should be transparent and fair with equal access to all American citizens. All American citizens deserve fair treatment, the truth, and adequate representation on important matters such as illegal immigration. On Friday, Dec. 18, 2009, fair treatment, the truth, transparency, equal access, and adequate representation were all usurped by illegal aliens and their supporters, which apparently have more influence over our government that the American public at this time.
It is heartbreaking to think of what our defenseless children are having to endure from this same kind of systematic abuse within our public schools. In this case, we have a clear example of state employees, teachers, and administrators encouraging their own students to lie and cheat for advantage with racist undertones.
William Gheen President, Americans for Legal Immigration PAC
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And here is his "Merry Christmas" message (http://tinyurl.com/y9km9ol):
Friends of ALIPAC,
All of us here at Americans for Legal Immigration PAC want to wish you and your families a very merry Christmas!
We've fought very hard this year and owe so many of you a great deal of gratitude for your support and efforts.
This Christmas is proving to be a very tough time for many of you due to the bad economy, poor health, and the crazy things going on in Washington.
Our prayers go out to all of you who are struggling and facing hard times this year [but I think Willy will still be asking for donations]. We'll all be saying a prayer for you and our country.
Christmas is a time when we are reminded of miracles, the promise of goodness and hope in dark times and tough trials. It is a time when we remember the spirit and faith that has guided us to the place in history we are today.
With our celebration of the birth of Jesus Christ, we can all think back to the hardships Joseph and Mary faced traveling so far to Bethlehem to pay a heavy tax to the government. Can our modern minds truly fathom natural childbirth in a manger full of livestock?
At the rigged N.C. Community College meeting on December 18, the local head of the NAACP, William Barber, had the audacity to compare illegal immigration with the story of Joseph and Mary. He thought it would be politically advantageous to compare the treatment of Joseph and Mary with America's treatment of illegal aliens. He even claimed that Joseph and Mary were turned away from the inn, not because it was full due to people traveling to Bethlehem for the Census and tax, but because the inn was closed to "certain kinds of people."
This Christmas season, my memories are stained with the mockery of the nativity offered by this Jesse Jackson wannabe as an attack on the vast majority of Americans who oppose illegal immigration.
To hear William Barber tell the nativity story, Joseph and Mary were like black civil rights protesters trying to find a room at a whites-only hotel in Alabama in 1940, abused by evil white people!
Here is a black American who is so heavy from excessive calories he can hardly stand, adorned with a doctorate degree, in the midst of the most racially-tolerant and diverse civilization to exist in all of human history, and is using the birth of Jesus Christ to attack "Americans".
From the context of Reverend Barber's pro-illegal immigration speech, one thing was perfectly clear and that was his use of the word America and Americans to mean white Americans of European ancestry.
Barber crowed to the audience of young illegal alien supporters, since Mexico ended slavery "long before America" that America needed to be careful about whom she called illegal!
Here's a holiday fact check for Mr. Barber and his race-card abusing ilk.
Mexico ended slavery about 12 years before America. For a brief time, American slaves would sometimes try to flee to Mexico. Mexico had about as many black slaves as America had!
The major difference is that one hundred and fifty-plus years later blacks make up 12.5% of the American population and have the highest standard of living levels of any black populations on the earth.
In Mexico, the black population has faced slow genocide and extreme racism that continues full force today. They now make up less than 1% of the population of Mexico. Of course that is an estimate, since the Mexican government refused to acknowledge the existence of or count black Mexicans in the Census.
Products on Mexican grocery store shelves have caricatures of black's like MM Penguin that would make Al Jolson file a lawsuit!
Mexican racism is alive and well with a TV show called "La Escuelita VIP" or 'the little school VIP' that's produced by Galavision, a subsidiary of Televisa, the media giant that controls most of Mexican television and is the biggest provider of programs to U.S. TV channels Univision and Telemundo. Black actors are called monkeys along with other racial epitaphs. Not surprisingly, the ADL and SPLC are silent on these issues.
Perhaps Dr. Barber should go visit the forlorn territories that blacks still occupy in Mexico and direct his civil rights attentions there? Better yet, I'll make him an open offer right now to book him a hotel room in or near the ethnic-cleansing zones in Los Angeles where blacks are executed for entering neighborhoods designated for Hispanics only by the Mexican Mafia and their enforcers like the MS-13 gang.
Our illegal immigration fighting leaders, like Terry Anderson and Ted Hayes in South Central Los Angeles, could educate William Barber on where the real racism exists in America today that is being fueled by rampant illegal immigration.
Perhaps William Barber could visit the grave of Jamiel Shaw Jr., 17, who was gunned down by 19-year-old illegal alien Pedro Espinoza, a 18th Street gang member who had been in and out of jail without deportation beforehand. Shaw was shot for the color of his skin.
So was little 14-year-old Cheryl Green. This little black girl crossed the street to say something to friends, not realizing she had crossed an invisible line into one of the ethnic-cleansing zones, which is why the illegal alien-importing Latino gang found her house and shot her down in her own yard.
These few examples are but two of a list I could write about for hours on end.
Most of the California prisons are now segregated by race, due to repeated riots and massive race-based attacks on black inmates coordinated by the illegal alien- and drug-importing Mexican cartels. Many California schools have experienced similar massive racially motivated violence.
While the old KKK has few adherents left in America and proves to be lethal once or twice each decade, the illegal aliens and their supporting cartels are murdering black Americans on an almost weekly basis from what we can tell from the information we are receiving from across the nation.
And who is it in America that is speaking out against these crimes and injustices? Is it the Southern Poverty Lie Center or the (Anti) Defamation League. No, it is groups like ALIPAC that stood in the room on December 18 to speak against benefits for illegal aliens, not people like Dr. William Barber who would even stoop to using the Christmas holiday and sacred story of the nativity to advance the cause of mass lawlessness fueled by hatred and animosity towards Anglo-Americans.
If the Reverend Barbers of the world are looking for guidance in the Bible for dealing with illegal immigration, then look no further than the ten commandments. Commandments 8-10 are likely grouped together for a reason as all apply to illegal immigration.
EIGHT, "You shall not steal.'
NINE: 'You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.'
TEN: 'You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor's.'
Reverend William Barber of the N.C. NAACP was wrong to use the story of Jesus's birth to bash Americans. He is out of line with black Americans, as well as the majority of whites and Hispanics in America.
This Christmas, regardless of our different races and religious backgrounds, or our political party of choice, let's all remember that we are Americans and that only a healthy dose of the truth is going to save this country.
Regardless of our differences, our principles, morals, and values unite us.
We all need a few days of time to take a break from these noble endeavors. Next year will be our greatest challenge yet!
Merry Christmas,
William Gheen & The ALIPAC Team
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No one entertains quite like "Willy the Whale."
I'd been part of some activities at my campus during my college years, and I dealt with a few volunteers when my oldest was in school, and I can say without reservation what Willy reported as happening when he registered and the different sign-in times doesn't surprise me a bit. Most of the kids working these events are either on stipend from the school or are volunteers for a variety of reasons, such as extra credit for a class for one of their friends asked them to sign up, or they felt is was their obligation to fight against idiots like Gheen and his weenies. Regardless of reason, they all have one thing in common: they haven't got a clue as to what's going on, and they couldn't care less. Ask them a question, you'll either get a shrug or they'll make something up.
RE: TIME AND DAY OF MEETING
When the hell did Willy think they were gonna hold this meeting, on a weekend? He's been involved in this crap long enough to know these things are carried on during normal business hours, and anyone who wants to participate had best be wiling to forfeit a day's pay, or a day's vacation or sick time. That's just how it is, and that's how it's always been. And anyone who's been bleating at government officials as long as Willy has knows this.
RE: NO COMMISSIONERS SHOWED UP!
Duh! Unless there was something specifically stating the commissioners were going to show up, why expect them? Last Friday before Christmas? That's a half-day right there, and I'm sure they were scrambling to clear their desks before they went on Christmas vacation. Double-dog duh.
RE: OUTNUMBERED
Well, who's fault was that? Their whole "movement" has been rife with ego-clashes, name calling, racism, and absolute pettiness from the get-go. No one with a pair of testicles would want to be associated with these old whiny bitches.
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...Here is a black American [Dr. William Barber] who is so heavy from excessive calories he can hardly stand, adorned with a doctorate degree, in the midst of the most racially-tolerant and diverse civilization to exist in all of human history, and is using the birth of Jesus Christ to attack "Americans"... At what other time have we heard about a Black with a doctorate addressing inequity in America from a podium? In little over 40 years ago, he died because of that stance. His was the primary message that has lead to better racial tolerance and acceptation of diversity.
...Mexico had about as many black slaves as America had!... I´d really like to see a source for this quote. Mexico outlawed immigration from the United States to bring Black slaves into Texas, but the rule, as others (learn Spanish, and convert to Catholicism), was ignored. They were called ¨indentured servants¨ under the same terms they had before.
...Mexican racism is alive and well with a TV show called "La Escuelita VIP" or 'the little school VIP' that's produced by Galavision, a subsidiary of Televisa, the media giant that controls most of Mexican television and is the biggest provider of programs to U.S. TV channels Univision and Telemundo. Black actors are called monkeys along with other racial epitaphs. Not surprisingly, the ADL and SPLC are silent on these issues... La Escuelita VIP is a comedy that pokes fun at much more than racism. Is Willy familiar with shows like ¨All in the Family¨ and ¨The Jeffersons¨? How about ¨Blazing Saddles¨?
...in or near the ethnic-cleansing zones in Los Angeles where blacks are executed for entering neighborhoods designated for Hispanics only by the Mexican Mafia and their enforcers like the MS-13 gang... He isn´t even familiar with gang origins and alliances...
...Most of the California prisons are now segregated by race, due to repeated riots and massive race-based attacks on black inmates coordinated by the illegal alien- and drug-importing Mexican cartels. Many California schools have experienced similar massive racially motivated violence...
Willy forgets the origins of this policy in combatting White Nationalism in prisons by heavily tattoed Nazis and skinheads...
...If the Reverend Barbers of the world are looking for guidance in the Bible for dealing with illegal immigration, then look no further than the ten commandments. Commandments 8-10 are likely grouped together for a reason as all apply to illegal immigration... Willy should know that Commandments I through V, and VI through X are grouped together for other reasons than illegal immigration. He´s going to argue (reliously) using a backdrop when illegal immigration didn´t exist? How about this quote, with almost the same Commandment references, spoken by Jesus (Matthew 19:16-19:19):
¨And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?
And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.
He saith unto him, Which? Jesus said, Thou shalt do no murder, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness,
Honour thy father and thy mother: and, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.¨
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