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ALIPAC.us' GREATEST HITS!
« on: February 11, 2007, 09:24:12 PM »

For those who do not frequent the HB forum board, there has been a brush war going on between William Gheen, president of ALIPAC, and Bob1388. Intermixed in the fray has been posts by LaVerdad claiming to have evidence that ALIPAC.us has forum posts from the marginally sane wanting to shoot Mexicans.

Gheen has vehemently denied it.

LaVerdad has proven it.

http://www.galleons.org/documents/alipac_greatest_hits.pdf





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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2007, 09:27:30 PM »

I say question Gheen on his call-in program tomorrow morning. Let him squirm.

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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2007, 09:42:06 PM »

I encourage others to write too. Better yet call in to ask whether Gheen still consideres it humorous.

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Mr. Wright,

Attached are actual screen shots taken from ALIPAC’s web site! Mr. Gheen seemed to think it was funny to shoot Mexicans for a bounty!

Please ask Mr. Gheen on your show whether he still considers that funny.

Thanks,

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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2007, 01:18:32 PM »

Forget writing to Curtis Wright. He's been brainwashed by W. He seems to think anyone opposed to anti-Hispanic xenophobia is automatically an open borders liberal.

Curtis Wright e-mail to Bob:
Save it!!!! OR, you can send me an address to send the bills.....

As one caller said: "it's the law....and, if we are a nation of laws, you don't get to pick and choose which one's to follow!"

Curtis Wright
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P.S. Please remove me from your e-mail listing. Thanks.
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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2007, 01:19:48 PM »

Bob's response to Curtis Wright. Probably a waste of bandwidth, but what the heck?

Mr. Wright, how can you make such comments without even knowing my position on illegal immigration?

I am a strong opponent of amnesty and illegal immigration. I don’t think anyone is above the law, and that includes anti-immigration organizations that don’t pay their payroll taxes, obtain proper licenses, or file accurate campaign finance reports. I think everyone should be held accountable if they don’t follow the law.

My e-mail was about xenophobia at ALIPAC. They might be on the same side of the amnesty issue as I am, but it is their anti-Hispanic attitudes and xenophobia I object to.

If you want to bill someone for reading my e-mail, send it to ALIPAC, where this material it originated.

Bob
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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2007, 01:21:01 PM »

But murdering is not against the law?

Crazy world Bob isn't?  No one wants to hear the truth.  I don't know what Bible he reads but my New Testament says if you think murder you have committed it.  Now the Bible does not say murdering an illegal alien is OK because he broke the law and you should get as much money for his head as possible. 

Instead God says forgive and what you do for the least of these you do for me.  Who is least of these:

Children, The Poor, Widows, Homeless -- get the picture.


What is wrong with Curits?  Does he not see those comments to be distasteful and seriously sick?


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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2007, 05:51:55 PM »

I doubt Curtis even read the Xenophobia commentary by Buford. Probably saw one or two and immediately assumed if I am criticizing ALIPAC xenophobia then that means I am for amnesty, etc. Didn't occur to him it's the xenophobia I object to.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2007, 06:48:05 PM »

Bob none of us here (the majority who are for a reformed comprehensive immigration bill) believe you are for amnesty or a comprehensive bill.  You have been quoted over & over as saying you are for enforcement.

I guess those guys and girlyguys just can't read or comprehend what they are reading.

You and I have disagreed and have stated at various times are position on the matter.

Some people like W are egocentric and act more like big babies than anything else.  Typing slower won't help them read, NOT having integrity and enough respect to listen to other people before making false accusations indicate that they are simple minded.
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2007, 07:06:30 PM »

Part of this goes back to the "either you're for us or you're against us" mentality that prevails at ALIPAC. If you're not as xenophobic as they are but if you say you're against legalization then you're a "closet open borders liberal." It's all black or white with that crowd; no moderate or in-between. Extremist with them is the KKK and anything to the center is either a "closet OBL" or an "OBL."
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« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2007, 05:27:16 AM »

Here's one from W encouraging all legal Americans to own guns. After reading some of the other posts, especially the one about shooting Mexicans, I'm not sure I would trust those guys with guns. Not only are some of them hateful, but many aren't all that bright and might easily hurt themselves or others.

http://tinyurl.com/2heyjv
As President of ALIPAC, I gladly encourage all legal Americans to own guns and to support and protect our 2cd Amendment rights. Being able to defend yourself, your family and your home is important. Being able to protect your community in times of disaster is also important.

A well armed citizenry is the cornerstone of defense against national enemies foreign and domestic as well as individual freedoms and liberty.
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« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2007, 09:38:12 AM »

I'm all for ALIPACkers and Minutemen having guns.

Most of 'em would shoot themselves while cleaning the gun, or using it for an improvised hammer.

And that little fracas in San Diego would have been much more amusing if videotaped during a firefight.

ARM THEM PUPPIES!

THIN THE HERD!

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« Reply #11 on: February 15, 2007, 04:43:40 PM »

Those Alipacers are what they are.

They are boycotting BA

Lets ask everyone to sign up to BA.


http://www.alipac.us/
Bank Defends Credit Cards for Illegal Immigrants
Wednesday, February 14 @ 18:41:39 UTC by Jean (625 reads)
In Los Angeles, immigrants who don't have credentials to work in the United States can still get a credit card, thanks to a pilot program run by Bank of America. The bank is hoping to tap a fast-growing market by offering credit cards to illegal immigrants without Social Security numbers.

Bank of America is testing the new credit-card program at about 50 Los Angeles branches. Applicants don't need a Social Security number or a traditional credit check to qualify. But they do need to have a Bank of America checking account with no recent history of bounced checks.

Topics:  Illegal Immigration, Bank of America, banks, credit cards, Social Security
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« Reply #12 on: February 15, 2007, 11:36:03 PM »

ok, a couple of things...

First, this BA credit card sounds like a Libertarian's dream: no background check, no need to give up what was simply a savings account number with Uncle Sam. Provided you have an account with BA and haven't bounced any checks, you're golden. Since they aren't discriminating as to who can have this kind of an account, you'd think the Tinfoil Hat Brigade set would be lined up around the block, thanking BA for staying out of their SSN.

Secondly, with qualifications like that (BA account, no SSN (meaning no credit check,) ) just how big a line of credit is BA extending? For that matter, what are the terms?

Trust me, BA wouldn't be doing this if they didn't think it would make them tons of cash.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2007, 04:22:17 AM »

I would mention that there are legal nonimmigrants who cannot obtain a social security number because they are not authorized to work.

Social Security will also not give a social security number to anyone with expired immigration paperwork, and will not accept a receipt for adjustment of status either, though those immigrants are lawfully present while their cases are pending.

There are people who would benefit from the BOA credit card who are not necessarily illegal immigrants.
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2007, 12:38:58 PM »

Check out this post by W, talking about how ALI-PAC moderators don't allow posts about viiolence, etc.

gofer wrote:
Check out this little tidbit they accuse us of:

Quote:
That's not all. That's not the worst. Something scary is the threats of violence. The moderators of ALIPAC want to keep this out of public view, and they will delete any comment that suggests violence. Really? There have been many. Some people talk about wanting to shoot people trying to cross the border. Others suggest land mines. Still others think that a civil war in this country is inevitable and recommend that the anti-Hispanic movement take up arms.
 
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This comment is partially true. We have banned many people that have tried to talk about lethal force on our site or make overly bravado comments. And there are people that believe illegal immigration is destabilizing our nation to the point mass unrest.

Six percent of our supporters are Hispanic and we are certainly not anti-Hispanic, but no matter what we do they will always spout that lie. Anyone that would oppose millions of illegal aliens will be called racist or anti immigrant or anti Hispanic etc... To hell with them!

They are the racists and they want all Hispanics to support La Raza which means they must support their illegal brothers and sisters. Most American Hispanics do not support the illegals and we welcome and encourage them to fight along side us.

Posts made by people with anonymous titles from the open source Internet do not reflect the organizational positions and temperament of ALIPAC.

Every section of our boards has the rules listed and each person that signs up for an account signifies they understand and will obey our rules.

Rule number six points out that ALIPAC is not responsible for post contents nor do the posts here signify endorsement or support etc....

Yes, our moderators will remove any post and or user that is out of line with our rules.

It is scary that some Americans are becoming so fed up that they are having violent thoughts in their thinking about protecting themselves and America. That is not what ALIPAC is about so we do not allow that on our site.

If we ever miss a comment like that, we gladly remove it pointed out to us.

In fact, we ask that all of our board users assist our moderators by watching for this kind of material and alerting us if spotted.

The illegal alien supporters may wish to try and elevate concerns about some of the posts we have removed from our site.

What is more scary than angry Americans ready to mine the Southern border is the 12-25 more Americans killed today.

How many thousands of legal American family members that did nothing wrong are in tears tonight?

How many American teenagers and kids are going to puff on that Mexican meth or Colombian cocaine streaming through Mexico?

How many families are sleepless tonight with the news of the foreclosure of their homes due to lost jobs and depreciated wages?

There's blood all over American streets due to this crisis and yes some Americans are having a hard time keeping a cool head.

The good people at ALIPAC do their part to provide an online activism working and information area that reflects the mainstream Americans that are upset about these issues.

To all of you open borders illegal alien supporting crybabies out there screaming because you saw someone type something that alarmed you at ALIPAC before it was removed, you can go stick it where the sun does not shine.

You are acting like screaming monkeys in the trees throwing your feces at us while we pick up the bodies of our dead and injured countrymen and women.

We will do our very best here at ALIPAC to maintain our composure as escalating reports of death, damage, and mayhem from illegal aliens stream in. We will maintain our high ground as we work late and early hours to restore our republic and the rule of law.

We will work legally and civic mindedly to have our existing laws enforced.

And if we should fail in our multiethnic peaceful and civic minded approach, or if our enemies should succeed in depriving the American public of moderate routes of organization, then let the chips fall where they may.

Our goal at ALIPAC is to do all that can be done to diffuse this crisis and avert further tragedy by restoring political balance represented by the wishes of over 80% of the American public.

What these illegal alien supporting freaks are trying to is to try and derail our operations by claiming a post here and there by an anonymous Internet user is an example of what this organization is about, and that is just plain Bull &&$ Is W anonymous? I don't think so. He thought a bounty for illegal immigrant Mexicans was "humorous." Once he admits taking part in a discussion about shooting Mexicans for a bounty, is he going to apologize publicly? Somehow I don't think so.

As President of ALIPAC, I gladly encourage all legal Americans to own guns and to support and protect our 2cd Amendment rights. Being able to defend yourself, your family and your home is important. Being able to protect your community in times of disaster is also important.

A well armed citizenry is the cornerstone of defense against national enemies foreign and domestic as well as individual freedoms and liberty.


Welcome to the United States of America.

Land of the free and home of the brave.

W
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