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americananproud
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but you cant come up with laws like l.a. did to protect the wrong(illegals) thats counterproduction to solving the illegal problem and detouring others. the law says hey it's ok to come here we are protecting you from being wrong. the fact is , too many illegals seem to believe they are owed something from the USA and when law makers come up with laws to protect them how will things get righted. theres a legal way to become a citizen and it needs followed not laws being ignored for decades and surely not laws to protect the wrong no matter where they are from and amnesty called tax and fines is not acceptable or the answer. would you ignore someone of murder using ethnic as a reason ? if i'm drunk and driving a car i'm illegally driving and i'm in trouble and pay the price. no one will say because i'm white , black , brown , yellow or green and should be exempted ! we can not have or make laws that protect people that are breaking the law. race , creed or color has nothing to do with breaking a law thats to protect a country and people.
the fact , if the l.a. law wasnt law jamiel could be alive and more people who are here illegally wouldnt be here to get into trouble or costing tax payers money . Or ... the police would be totally ovwerwhlmed by unreported, suspectless crimes, due to the fear of the undocumented population about collaborating with the police in any way. you are interpreting the law wrongly. the law is not intended for that purpose . |
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americananproud
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...theres a legal way to become a citizen and it needs [to be] followed...
Which "legal way to become a citizen" are we referring to?...
it sure aint allowing people to come here crossing the borders unknowingly and then coming up with excuses to make them leave and ignore the fact they did something illegally. !! i think the right process is going thru the current laws . we legal way are you understanding ? only know of one way ! enlighten me on the other ways ... it should be interesting.
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americananproud
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...theres a legal way to become a citizen and it needs [to be] followed...
Which "legal way to become a citizen" are we referring to?... it sure aint allowing people to come here crossing the borders unknowingly and then coming up with excuses to make them leave and ignore the fact they did something illegally. !! i think the right process is going thru the current laws . we legal way are you understanding ? only know of one way ! enlighten me on the other ways ... it should be interesting. What I'm meaning is to ask how someone becomes a citizen of the United States coming from another country. Elaborate on the "one way" (I don't know of any others either) please. I'll reveal some detail about myself after your post.
going thru the process we have for hundred years ! the citizenship process.
hers a link..http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/
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americananproud
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...theres a legal way to become a citizen and it needs [to be] followed...
Which "legal way to become a citizen" are we referring to?... it sure aint allowing people to come here crossing the borders unknowingly and then coming up with excuses to make them leave and ignore the fact they did something illegally. !! i think the right process is going thru the current laws . we legal way are you understanding ? only know of one way ! enlighten me on the other ways ... it should be interesting. What I'm meaning is to ask how someone becomes a citizen of the United States coming from another country. Elaborate on the "one way" (I don't know of any others either) please. I'll reveal some detail about myself after your post. going thru the process we have for hundred years ! the citizenship process. hers a link.. http://www.usimmigrationsupport.org/
to reveal myself... i'm a proud American citizen that believes in the constitution , laws and charity. i believe without laws , enforcement and abiding by them you have total disrespect , lawlessness and disruption. you have a country thats going to fail just as you can see in europe and the crime going on in mexico .
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IBMMuseum
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The immigration process has really changed over the last 100 years, and much of the current policy has been established less than half of that time. I ask a question and hope that you are at least familiar with the basics, and you provide a commercial website (the true agency is at www.uscis.gov). That's a non-answer.
People fill out an application, wait in a line, and come in as U.S. citizens?...
I'm a U.S. citizen too, but want to find out if what you presume is a faster method for my wife to become a citizen...
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americananproud
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The immigration process has really changed over the last 100 years, and much of the current policy has been established less than half of that time. I ask a question and hope that you are at least familiar with the basics, and you provide a commercial website (the true agency is at www.uscis.gov). That's a non-answer. People fill out an application, wait in a line, and come in as U.S. citizens?... I'm a U.S. citizen too, but want to find out if what you presume is a faster method for my wife to become a citizen...
well , i guess it's illegally. thats sarcastic. i dont know. i guess as with anything. for it to be done right it's gonna take time. i dont believe in special treatment even for me. i wait for things myself. i gave you my suggestion and becoming a legal citizen and dont feel "change " is the answer. i ask this , we keep allowing more ways for people to come here and not figure out what we are going to do for jobs and stuff what will happen then. it's obvious this administration thinks everyone should be on welfare or other entitlement program because they sure arent letting anyone create jobs. seems they want the jobs to be created as they see fit.
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americananproud
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well , i guess it's illegally. thats sarcastic. i dont know. i guess as with anything. for it to be done right it's gonna take time. i dont believe in special treatment even for me. i wait for things myself. i gave you my suggestion and becoming a legal citizen and dont feel "change " is the answer. i ask this , we keep allowing more ways for people to come here and not figure out what we are going to do for jobs and stuff what will happen then. it's obvious this administration thinks everyone should be on welfare or other entitlement program because they sure arent letting anyone create jobs. seems they want the jobs to be created as they see fit.
I am very familiar with the immigration process, and it is very evident that you are not. What status does a foreigner gain to marry an American? If you are unfamiliar even with legal immigration how can you know enough to form an opinion?
an opinion can be formed by anyone about anything. this post was about a kid that was shot down by someone who is in this country illegally and shouldnt have been. no if's and's or excuses. i dont know you , where your from or where your wife is. i do know enough about citizenship that if someone cant or dont follow the law they are breaking it and i dont need excuses for low lifes that have total disregard for a countrys laws. what does a foreigner gain by marrying an american .. a free pass if thats what your looking for as an answer and when they get here they fly the coup and run wild. and if you are so knowledgable about citizenship then why are you here condoning illegals ? or atleast from what i read in your posts i'd tend to believe you do . do you not believe in laws or maybe your special and should get special treatment ?
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americananproud
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...an opinion can be formed by anyone about anything...
Excuse me, I should have said an "informed opinion"... ...i dont know you , where your from or where your wife is. i do know enough about citizenship that if someone cant or dont follow the law they are breaking it and i dont need excuses for low lifes that have total disregard for a countrys laws. what does a foreigner gain by marrying an american .. a free pass if thats what your looking for as an answer and when they get here they fly the coup and run wild. and if you are so knowledgable about citizenship then why are you here condoning illegals ? or atleast from what i read in your posts i'd tend to believe you do . do you not believe in laws or maybe your special and should get special treatment ?
I am a native-born U.S. citizen... My wife is a Legal Permanent Resident that lives in the United States with me... Saying that a foreigner marrying a U.S. citizen "gets a free pass" and "when they get here they fly the coup and run wild" is very demeaning to almost all foreign-born spouses, and insulting to my wife in particular. Calling me an anarchist or unlawful is insulting to me. I followed all laws to legally immigrate my wife and stepchildren. If you have read my post, and believe you have an informed opinion to make the statements like you have, I think you need to read them again... The process of someone coming to the United States is called "immigration"... The process of someone becoming a citizen (other than by birth) is called "naturalization"... You don't know of the difference, and are confused entirely on the issues...
well my friend , if you read what you had wrote in one of your posts you were the one that started to depict who knew something and referred to me as not knowing what i'm talking about and basically are saying your more qualified about immigration and citizenship than i . and in one of my posts i did plainly state some sarcasm . now if your wanting the battle of minds here to contest on who's smarter then it will only end with bashing. if your wanting to stay on subject then we might be able to debate. and if you did read after my "free pass " comment i said if thats what your looking for me to say . i do know what immigration and citizenship is and it's all tied together for citizens of other countrys who want to come here and become a proud American citizen. as far as the original post... i have nothing for someone who creates their own laws on being in this country illegally . i accept no excuses for parents or people who come here illegallyy just to have a child born here to find the loop hole to be able to slip throw a hole because the child is then considered naturally born in the country and then the mother i believe is now legal to stay here. that sir is an insult to you and your wife a lot more than my sarcastic reply. as well as the others from around the world who come here illegally. you asked me if i knew how to get your wife legal faster , now didnt you. you claim to knowe more than me , atleast your reply's seem to state that . but i wonder two things. if i dont know what i'm talking about , then why did you ask my opinion ? and if you think i'm kinda sort right on my principle then why do you seem to side more on the illegals having more rights than say you following the laws as best you can... is that not a bit Hippocratic or are you just trying to set me up for the "he's a racist" mentality ? for which then i claim as you are insulting me !
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americananproud
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...i accept no excuses for parents or people who come here illegallyy just to have a child born here to find the loop hole to be able to slip throw a hole because the child is then considered naturally born in the country and then the mother i believe is now legal to stay here. that sir is an insult to you and your wife a lot more than my sarcastic reply. as well as the others from around the world who come here illegally. you asked me if i knew how to get your wife legal faster , now didnt you... Wrong, I asked if you knew a way for my wife to get her citizenship quicker (read the question again, she is already a legal immigrant). The "loop hole" you refer to is part of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. And, no, the mother (and/or father) does not gain any immigration status through her child, that a common misconception (another is that a foreigner becomes a citizen immediately by marrying an American). How is what an illegal alien does an insult to me and my wife?...
how an illegal just by passes the laws , comes here, takes a job and avoids all the processes you choose to do legally. in the jamiels law it would appear you are against it's purpose to find one way to maybe save another family from the same deal they went thru.
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