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« on: December 12, 2009, 04:49:26 AM »

http://tinyurl.com/y8fa2wu
This is a rant from Gheen in response to a claim that U.S. armed forces are contemplating direct action against U.S. citizens.  He believes that the U.S. Northern Command NORTHCOM is "watching" and "listening".  To what he doesn't say.  His comments show that he actually believes that it's a possibility that U.S. troops could be used against U.S. citizens.

There is another guy Chuck Baldwin who suggests that internment camps are being built to detain U.S. citizens who won't submit to the North American Union or single world government or something like that.  There was a column on Townhall dot com yesterday where the columnist suggested that the government will try to restrict where you can drive in your car going so far as to suggest that you will need a passport to cross a state line.  The birther movement.

I read a lot of stuff.  Far right conservative Townhall and Nat'l Review and of course MensaPAC.  I don't waste time with Ann Coulter or Medved or Malkin or people like that because their columns don't provide any insight at all.  I would probably listen to Rush and Sean but I rarely use a car.  Five minutes to the grocery store and five minutes back a few times a week.  I don't listen to the radio at any other time so I don't know what type of psycho-babble is being spread on talk radio.  Maybe that's where it's being bred.

What I'm saying is that lunacy, pure craziness, irrational conclusions, real clinical delusions seem to be in the main stream.  They won't respond to reason.  They believe way out wacked out conspiracy theories with little evidence to support it.  Right now at this point I'm not losing sleep at night.  But if this process of regression continues worsening, then ...


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Re: Lunacy
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2009, 11:11:58 PM »

They're trading on old coin.

It's a well-known fact everybody cheers for the underdog. And anyone who doesn't believe in their way of thinking must surely be planning a conspiracy against "American Values," just another way of saying white bread conservative Protestant values.

Thankfully, hardly anyone takes these nuts seriously. Those who do are just barely able to function in society; the rest use that right-wing nuttiness to make a profit, like ol' Glenn Beck.

Unlike yourself SG I don't have the luxury of living in an urban area where I can walk to the bookstore on my lunch break or even to get to the nearest fast food joint (something I really miss after living in L.A. and Pittsburgh.) I have a 30-mile drive each way to work and back, so I get to listen to these nuts (it's either that, sports, or country/western; I gave up on FM radio soon as they started that "Morning Zoo" crud, or even worse, those vapid guy/girl teams that make me want to kamikaze the radio station.) Anyway, I get to hear these nuts, and if you can get over the rhetoric being regurgitated over the airwaves, you can start to hear the manipulation of the audience. Limbaugh is the worst, sounding like your Aunt Margret in a perpetual state of menopause. Beck is a self-proclaimed rodeo clown, and he's turned the crazy volume up to 11 since he got the Fox gig. Hannity however is a master manipulator. There are certain sound bites he wants his listeners to believe, and he'll hammer it home every fifteen minutes or so, little catch phrases that he wants them to parrot when they call in.

All the others are still on the bleachers, washed up DJs who find an extension on their careers in right-wingery talk shows.

But be of good cheer: Obama was elected after everyone thought him a lost cause, the Democrats swept both houses of the Congress, and our lawmakers have seen behind the anti-immigrant movement and found nothing but old farts with nothing better to do and snake oil salesmen primed to make a quick buck.

We're making headway. Now all we have to do is convince the President to let his sack descend and pull an LBJ with health care and immigration. And I think it'll happen next year.

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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2009, 03:44:04 PM »

More lunacy:

http://tinyurl.com/ye5ruqb

Gheen took a giant leap towards moving anti-Hispanic fanaticism even further from the mainstream as he equated illegal immigration with the wacky North American Union conspiracy theory.

“Each effort to provide taxpayer paid benefits for illegal immigrants along with voting rights and citizenship in spite of existing US laws is the result of a conspiracy against the American public that is being perpetrated by Global financial and political elites.

This plan to subjugate and replace American citizens in our jobs, homes, and voting enclosures is called the 'North American Union' by those of us who have been trying to warn our fellow Americans with an accurate description of this plan. It may be a conspiracy, but it is no theory. The intentions and mechanization of this 'economic union' are on clear display for those who are merely willing to seek and understand the information.”

It would be to his advantage to leave out the NAU conspiracy theorizing. 
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« Reply #3 on: December 17, 2009, 06:31:27 PM »

What, and lose his Clown Card?

Redonkulous!

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Re: Lunacy
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2009, 04:01:53 AM »

http://tinyurl.com/yfsfvrt
OH CRACKERS!!!  Is this guy just a blatant idiot or is he crazy?

A website has an online poll.  Gheen's comments:
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This poll is on a pro Amnesty website. We cannot have any trust in the readings being authentic or untempered with. Just like nobody would trust a poll we put on our site.

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Gheen evidently is completely oblivious to the fact that the poll is not scientific.  It's a poll of the opinions of people who just happen to be surfing past that website and feel like voting.  For THAT reason it can't be projected to any population.  Gheen discounts it because it's a pro-immigrant website and they might fudge the numbers.

The question one has to ask oneself: is Gheen's lack of understanding of scientific polling a result of idiocy, ignorance or lunacy?
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« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2009, 02:26:55 AM »

Any poll ANYWHERE has to be considered suspect. Polls today do not necessarily reflect society no matter how scientific the sampling, mainly because pollsters rely on landline telephones which tend to skew to the elderly. Lots of younger people have forsaken the AT&T tether for cell convenience, but pollsters haven't managed to keep up with the times.

Having said that, Gheen is still iff his rocker: that isn't a "pro-amnesty" website, it's a site selling information on how to fill out applications for green cards, visas, and so on. And just by looking at it, my spidey-sense is tingling.

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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2009, 06:09:04 PM »

...it's a site selling information on how to fill out applications for green cards, visas, and so on. And just by looking at it, my spidey-sense is tingling.

Yes, very high profit margins for doing something (if able) any would-be applicant can...

But it's money first, heartache later...

They can't get you through the process any quicker than you can yourself, but will continue to sell the idea that anyone (with money for them) can come to the United States and live the American dream...

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